ICBC L & N Driver Restrictions Summary & Bottomless FAQ [2022]

ICBC L and N Restrictions

ICBC L & N Driver Restrictions British Columbia

If you were wondering things like…

Do N drivers have a curfew?

What are the rules for N drivers in BC?

Can you drive after midnight with an N?

Are N drivers allowed to use GPS?

Can new drivers listen to music?

How many passengers can L and N drivers take?

This article will answer all these questions, plus so many more.

ICBC gives the gift of a lot of L & N driver restrictions. These are in place for both class 7L ‘learner drivers‘ and class 7N ‘new drivers.’

Both new and learner drivers have with their own set of rules and regulations. Some of them overlap. This is all part of ICBC’s graduated licensing program. Turns out, learning how to drive gradually seems to be the safest method.

car dog

No more 9 month “graduation”

Back when I was teaching driving lessons in North Vancouver, it was a thing that if a student driver took the approved GLP (Graduated Licensing Program) driver education course, complete with theory classes and instructor’s stamp of approval, they could get their “N” three months earlier than other learners… after only driving for nine months.

Crammed learning crashed more

But this quickly backfired. It was seemingly so exciting for these young people to be getting their license. Understandably so. However, it turned out that this group of new drivers simply put, crashed more.

Now, that isn’t a thing anymore. Seriously, take your time learning how to drive if you can. I know most people don’t want to do that, but I thought I’d throw it out there anyway.

ICBC new driver restrictions

Contents:

  1. Electronic Devices For L & N’s
  2. Music
  3. Distracted Driving Fines & Penalty Points
  4. Displaying L & N Sign
  5. Drugs & Alcohol
  6. Drunk Supervisor
  7. Driving In U.S. & Across Canada With L & N
  8. Highway & Freeway With L & N
  9. Vehicles L & N May Drive
  10. Towing Trailers
  11. Renting a U-Haul
  12. Class 7 “L” Learner Restrictions
  13. Required Supervisor For L
  14. Time-Of-Day Restriction For L
  15. Length Of L Phase
  16. L Passenger Restrictions
  17. N Restrictions Overview
  18. N Passenger Restrictions
  19. Definition Of ‘Immediate Family’
  20. Definition Of ‘Spouse’
  21. Length of Time In N Stage
  22. Renewing The N
  23. Driving At Night With N
  24. Finding Your Particular Restrictions
  25. 60 Hour Log
  26. Buying a Car With L & N
  27. N Passenger Details
  28. Driving With a Baby
  29. Lost L or N Sign
  30. Penalty For Driving Alone
  31. Can an N Driver Drive My Car?
  32. Common ICBC Restriction Codes
  33. Conclusion

Why are there so many L/N restrictions?

These N driver restrictions are in place to keep inexperienced drivers as safe as possible.

To do this, ICBC had to try and reduce the amount of distractions for the driver.

Multiple studies have found that new drivers crash much more when their friends are in the vehicle with them.

new driver car crash

That’s why you’ll notice some pretty stringent requirements in the passenger restriction sections.

So, let’s go through this. We will discuss the ‘L’ or Learner rules.

Then we will move onto the ‘N’ New driver rules.

But first, let’s go through a few of the similarities for both the 7L and the 7N licenses.

1. L & N Driver Restrictions – Electronic Devices

For Both ‘L’ & ‘N’ :

  • No hand-held cellphones or other electronic devices
  • No hands-free cellphones or other electronic devices
  • Do not touch, operate, hold or adjust your phone
  • Bluetooth with wireless headset is not allowed
  • Using speakerphone that can be operated with one touch or voice commands is not allowed
  • Do not program a GPS system
  • You can not select music from your cellphone
  • Do not wear earbuds
  • Connecting your cellphone or hand-held device to play music on your in-vehicle audio system is not allowed

While you are driving…

*Keep in mind, these N driver restrictions laws are for when you are driving.

It’s okay if you want to safely pull over and park, and then connect your music for example. Just do not even think about touching any of the above while driving.

These laws are in effect even when you’re stopped at a red light, or stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic.

L N Electronic Devices Laws

2. Can N Drivers Listen to Music?

Yes, you can listen to music while driving if you have your Class 7L or 7N. But, you can’t use electronic devices while driving. In other words, set up your music before you drive.

Then, put it away. Do not touch any electronic device whatsoever while driving. Or, just use the radio or CD player if those are options in your vehicle.

music

3. Distracted Driving Fines & Penalty Points

The fines for distracted driving are not cheap these days. One ticket costs $368 and 4 points; for a total of $620.

If you aren’t familiar with ICBC driver penalty points, they are a bad thing, and add an additional charge on top of your fine.

​Motor Vehicle Act sectionDescriptionFinePoint level
214.2 (1)Using electronic device while driving$3684
214.2 (2)Emailing or texting while driving$3684
  • Four points costs $252
  • 50 points will cost you $34,560 (It’s funny until you realize I’m not even kidding)

4. You Must Prominently Display The Official ‘L’ Or ‘N’ Sign

display L and N sign
  • Your ‘L’ or ‘N’ sign needs to be clearly visible. Do not hide it half behind your license plate
  • It is supposed to let drivers around you know to be a little more patient
  • If you’re driving a trailer, put the ‘L’ or ‘N’ sign on the back of the trailer where people will be able to see it; not on the back of the vehicle
N sign on trailer

Remember the whole point of it is for other people to actually see it.

Driving lessons and the L or N sign

If you’re going for driving lessons with a driving school, you don’t need to put the L or N sign on the car.

That’s because driving school cars are required to have big signs. These signs say ‘student driver’ attached to the back of the car for people to see. You can always add the sign if you like.

5. L & N Driver Restrictions Zero Drugs & Alcohol

For both L and N drivers, there is a strict zero alcohol & drugs tolerance law. It is task enough to be an inexperienced driver in this world nowadays. There is no way that any amount of drugs or alcohol will help anyone.

6. Can Your Supervisor be Drunk?

So, in addition to zero blood alcohol for the new driver, the supervisor needs to have a BAC under 50 mg% (.05). Ideally, the supervisor should have a zero blood alcohol requirement too.

Alcohol and the Learner Driver Supervisor – DriveSmart BC

Get creative with ways home

You may need to get creative sometimes. Remember that there are always alternatives, such as Uber, public transportation, staying over night, calling someone for a ride, etc.

Class 7 zero alcohol

7. Can New & Learner Drivers Drive In the U.S. & Across Canada?

Yes, the N driver restrictions allow for both N and L to drive across Canada & in the U.S. Just make sure to follow the same restrictions displayed on the back of your license. You might need a magnifying glass to read it, but it’s there.

Check and see if you can change your car speedometer to American (miles). 50 km/hr is roughly equal to 31 mph. 80 km/hr is about 50 mph.

L and N driver USA and Canada

When in Rome…. I mean, when in the USA, do as the Canadians do. If you do get pulled over, authorities will look at your license. They will be able to see your L and N driver restrictions. And, they’ll expect you’re following them.

8. Driving On the Highway/Freeway

L and New driver on freeway

Can Class 7 Drive On Highway In BC?

Yes, you can drive on the highway & freeway with your Learner’s license and New driver license (Class 7L & 7N). The only exception is if it indicates you aren’t allowed on the back of your license. This is rare.

Highway/Freeway not that dangerous

The only way to get better and more experienced at driving is to actually drive. That’s why brand new learner drivers with their Class 7 are allowed to drive on the freeway and highway. The highway/freeway – ironically – isn’t the most dangerous place for new drivers.

The most dangerous place to drive…

The most dangerous place (for all drivers) is intersections that are close to your home. Always pay full attention close to home. Do not go on autopilot just because you know where all the stop signs are, etc. The second most common place where crashes happen is parking lots.

Just be sure to keep your eyes up far ahead when on the freeway, this will help keep your car control smooth. And stay in the right lane; the left lane is for faster traffic.

9. What Vehicles Can New Drivers Operate?

L & N Driver Restrictions

Class 5 or 7 (novice L & N) licence holders are allowed to operate passenger vehicles that have 2 axlesOpens in a new tab., such as:

  • Cars & vans
  • Construction & utility vehicles (2 axle max)
  • Light trucks
  • Limited-speed motorcycles or ATV’s (all terrain vehicle)
  • Any motor home (may exceed 2 axles) not equipped with air brakesOpens in a new tab.
  • 3-wheeled vehicles; does not include 3-wheeled motorcycles (trikes) or motorcycle/sidecar combinations

10. Can A New Driver Tow A Trailer?

New drivers and learner drivers in BC (Class 7 L & N) are allowed to tow a trailer that weighs up to a maximum 4,600 kg GVW (gross vehicle weight).

GVW is the combined weight of your trailer and its load.

Say a trailer weighs 4,000 kg when empty. You can tow the trailer with a Class 4, 5 or 7 (novice) driver’s licence.

Watch your weight


Just be careful, because after you load the trailer with loot, the GVW might exceed 4,600 kg. So do ‘watch your weight’ especially if you’re packing your collection of designer marble counter tops or something like that.

11. Can A New Driver Rent A U-Haul?

U-HaulOpens in a new tab. requires that renters be at least 16 years old to rent a trailer, and 18 years old to rent trucks. You do not need a special driver’s license to rent a U-Haul, since they are not classified as commercial vehicles.

According to U-Haul, learner drivers are not able to drive. However, new drivers are able to rent and drive U-Hauls.

Any license which grants ability to drive without supervision will work. Learner’s permits are not acceptable.

U-HaulOpens in a new tab.

Be sure to follow all of your N driver restrictions when driving U-Haul.

12. Class 7L Learner Restrictions 

A Learner is a new driver who has either never driven before, or has driven a small amount, or infrequently enough to be needing another Learner’s license.

These are the most inexperienced drivers. Passing the knowledge test with ICBC.Opens in a new tab. – which includes a road signs test – is required to ‘get the L.’

13. Learner Driver Restrictions: Your Required Supervisor

When you have your ‘L’

  • Your supervisor must be at least 25 years or older (or any age if they are a licensed driving instructor)
  • The supervisor must hold a valid driver’s license, other than a learner’s license or Class 7, of a class that permits operation of the motor vehicle category
  • ‘N’ New drivers can not supervise ‘L’ drivers
  • Must sit in the front seat beside the driver

Hopefully your supervisor is not quite as serious as this guy… —>

new driver supervisor

No offence to ‘the guy,’ whoever you are. Loving that smouldering intensity sh%# Opens in a new tab.right there.

14. New Driver ‘L’ Restrictions: Permitted Driving Hours

ICBC permits you to drive between 5 am and midnight only, with the L.

ICBC L driving hours

15. Length of ‘L’ Phase

This ‘L’ stage lasts for at least 12 months, after which time you can take your ‘N’ Road Test.

If drivers don’t behave, their L phase can last much longer.

ICBC has set the ‘L’ driver’s license to be valid for 2 years. You can renew it by re-taking the knowledge test, if it does expire.

16. How Many Passengers With ‘L’ ?

Maximum 3 People In The Car In Total Including The Driver

ICBC max 3 people in car

Learner drivers can only have 2 passengers in the car, maximum.

The only people allowed in the car are:

  1. The driver
  2. The supervisor
  3. The optional other passenger
BC L Passenger restrictions

17. Class 7 – N Driver Restrictions

Rules For ‘N’ Drivers In BC

A new driver is a human who has passed their very first road test. Not necessarily on the first try. I did not pass my first road test because I never took driving lessons. So, I never did enough right shoulder checks before my right turns. In fact I don’t think I did any at all. Whoops.

So, new drivers will have driven with somebody for at least a little while. That somebody may have been a family member, friend, or a driving instructor.

As soon as they get their ‘N’, they may drive alone for the first time in their life. Ah, freedom.

There is no road signs test to get your ‘N’ per se, but don’t be fooled… The examiner will be able to tell if you see and know your road signs while you are driving. It will be pretty obvious.

18. ‘N’ Passenger Restrictions

You can only take 1 passenger in this stage, unless they are your immediate family members, or, if you have a supervisor with you.

If you so desire, you can fill up your vehicle with family members, as long as they all have a seat belt of course.

Additionally, you may also drive with as many people as you have seat-belts for, if you have a supervisor with you.

The supervisor must be the usual supervisor: aged 25 years or older, with a valid class 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 driver’s license. They need to sit beside you in the front seat.

19. ICBC Immediate Family Members Definition

What counts as immediate family members? Immediate family means

  • Parents
  • Children
  • Spouse
  • Brothers
  • Sisters
  • Grandparents
  • Step-parent
  • Step-grandparent
  • Step-child
  • Step-brother
  • Step-sister
  • Foster-parent
  • Foster-grandparent
  • Foster-child
  • Foster-grandchild
  • Foster-brother
  • Foster-sister

… but not cousins. Cousins are not considered immediate family.

Think of cousins as ‘friends.’

20. Spouse Definition For ICBC Restrictions

ICBC spouse definition

What counts as a spouse?

A spouse is defined as someone who was married to another person at ‘the relevant time’ or who was living for minimum 2 years or longer immediately before the ‘relevant time’ in a marriage-like relationship.

This includes marriage-like relationships between people of the same gender identity.

21. Length Of Time In ‘N’ Stage

N stage time

Part of the N driver restrictions includes the amount of time in this stage. This stage must last for at least 24 months (2 years), unless you have successfully completed a GLP driver education program. However, your N license won’t expire for 5 years.

In the case you’ve completed an approved driver education program, your 24 months can be reduced to 18 months.

If your license is suspended, cancelled, expired, or surrendered, you must wait longer to qualify for a full privileged driver’s license.

Once your license is reinstated, your 24 months will start over from the beginning.

22. Can You Renew Your N License BC?

Even though you can take your second road test after two years, your 7N Novice license won’t expire for five years.

After five years, if you’re still not ready for the second road test, you can simply renew your drivers license, just like anyone else. You’ll just need to go to ICBC, pay a fee, and get a new photo taken.

The only thing to be aware of is the amount of time your ‘N’ license has been expired. If it’s been expired for a long time (don’t quote me but I believe it is 2 or 3 years), then you won’t be able to simply renew it.

At that point you’ll need to do another road test, or, you can also just get a BC-ID card which is a non-drivers photo ID, if you’re not into driving anymore.

Time Of Day Restrictions

23. Can N Drivers Drive At Night In BC?

Yes, Class 7N new drivers can drive at night or anytime 24/7/365. There are no time restrictions – you may drive whenever you like, as long as you’re following all of the restrictions printed on the back of your license.

The only time restriction in the graduated licensing program is for Learner – 7L – drivers, who are restricted to 5 a.m. till midnight.

can n drivers drive at night in bc

24. What Are Your Particular New Driver Restrictions?

FYI: Your customized restrictions are printed on the back of your drivers license. You may or may not need a magnifying glass in order to read them.

new driver license bc

Read about the graduated licensing program on the ICBC website.

ICBC FAQ’s (Can I drive outside of BC with my L or N)

25. Does ICBC Check The 60-Hour Log?

It’s highly recommended that new drivers drive for at least 60 hours before attempting their first road test.

But no, ICBC does not check your ’60 hour log;’ Which is/was a paper form to keep track of your on-road practicing hours.

I actually used this when I was learning how to drive. It’s a simple piece of paper to keep track of your practicing hours. I was proud of every chunk of 20 minutes that I added onto that sheet and had my parent officially sign.

You may not be stopped from attempting a road test with not enough experience, but you likely won’t pass.

26. Can I Buy A Car With L License In BC?

Yes yes you can, you can buy and insure a car with a learners license in BC, why not? Just follow the restrictions on your license as usual. Make sure you have a supervisor when you are driving it, display your L sign, etc.

When beginning to drive and own a car, make sure you know about car insurance premiums, and how liability and comprehensive insurance work, as you’ll need to make some decisions around those.

27. ‘N’ Novice Driver Passenger Restrictions 

How Many Passengers With ‘N’?

New drivers can only have ONE passenger as per their new driver restrictions…

n driver restrictions friends

…Immediate family members are exempt from the rule

These new driver restrictions may be annoying and inconvenient and. But, they aren’t forever.

ICBC passenger restrictions

That means you can fill up your car with immediate family members and you can still have ONE friend (or non-immediate family member)

new driver restrictions

You can also fill up your car with any kind of people you want IF you have a qualified supervisor with a full license class 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5

N supervisor N driver restrictions

N Driver Restrictions: You Are Not Allowed To Drive With TWO Friends

Sorry… You can only have ONE friend. Friends are nice, but have been proven to be very distracting for new drivers.

ICBC has found that new drivers who drive around with friends in their vehicle are much more likely to crash. And unfortunately, some people’s friends have been lost this way.

Wondering about crashing your friends’ car? You’re not the only one.

ICBC L N Passengers N driver restrictions

You can not drive with one friend plus another person who is NOT an immediate family as defined by ICBC above 

ICBC N driver restrictions

Remember the reason that these restrictions are in place are to keep people safe. New drivers are more likely to have a crash when compared with experienced drivers, even without distractions. 

can I buy a car with my L n driver restrictions

There Is a Pulse In Your Thumb

Okay this is just slightly random, but I thought I’d throw it in here for good luck. Avoid checking someone’s pulse with your thumb. Your thumb has its own.

28. Can a New Driver Drive With a Baby in British Columbia?

Yes, just be sure to follow your passenger restrictions. A baby will be technically a son or daughter. Immediate family members are exempt from the one-passenger restriction in the ‘N’ stage. In other words, daughters and sons are allowed.

The safest place for a car seatOpens in a new tab. is in the rear, middle seat, as it is farthest away from potential airbags and impact.

Read more: Car Seat Regulations BC – The Basic Guide

baby carseat bc
Oh Dear
Don’t worry.

29. Lost Your L or N Sign?

If you lost your L or N sign, you have a few options. You could:

Make sure to attach it to your vehicle so that it’s clearly visible. Unfortunately, making your own sign is not permitted.

Otherwise, you will need to visit ICBC. Opens in a new tab.Check ahead of time as many locations are only allowing appointments.

Question: Is It Illegal To Keep An “N” Or “L” On The Back Of A Vehicle All The Time Even If The Driver Is Not In The Learners Or New Category?

Answer From The VPD (Vancouver Police Department) Via Email:

                The simple answer is “ no “it is not illegal, but keep in mind that you may be stopped if you are the lone occupant of the vehicle driving while displaying an “L” sign. The “L” sign requires the driver to be accompanied by a qualified supervisor. If an officer sees a vehicle operated by a lone individual while displaying an “L” sign the officer will more than likely stop the vehicle to ascertain if he/she is contravening the licence restrictions.

30. Penalty For Driving Alone With Learners Permit In BC

If a learner driver drives alone, without supervision, it’s hard to say exactly what the consequences will be. Police can use their discretion. Some of the possibilities include:

  • Getting a ticket for “driving contrary to restrictions”
  • Your vehicle may be towed at your expense
  • Your case may be sent to the superintendent (supervisor of motor vehicles department) for review
  • Your drivers license may be suspended for 3 to 6 months (once suspended, you’ll need to restart the graduated licensing program time frame)
  • At-fault collisions that have potential to haunt you forever (not trying to be dramatic, it’s kind of true)
Penalty for Learner driver driving alone or with too many passengers BC

31. Can An N Driver Drive My Car?

​Since September 2019, ICBC has changed their insurance model. They’re moving to a more driverbased system. Yes, new and learner drivers can drive your car, but ICBC asks you to list who drives your car. Examples are family members and employees – including learner driversOpens in a new tab. and new drivers.

You can add a learner or a new driver to your listed drivers at an Autoplan broker office. You will need their driver’s licence number and birthday. You can add or remove listed drivers anytime. Consider a dash cameraOpens in a new tab. (Amazon) to capture hard evidence.

If an unlisted driver crashes your car, you could face a financial consequence unless you have Unlisted Driver Protection.

Driver-based model: Under the new model, at-fault crashes will follow the driver, not the vehicle.

However, crashes caused by learners won’t go on their driving record. The learner stage will also not count towards their driving experience.

ICBC – For parents of teen drivers

32. Common ICBC Restriction Codes

BC Drivers License Restrictions Examples

Wondering what those numbers on your license mean? Here are some common ICBC restriction codes. Opens in a new tab.

  • Restriction 14 – Restriction 14 may be applied to a licence as a result of a road test. Drivers with this restriction are not permitted to operate a vehicle on highway 99 south of Vancouver, or highway 1 east of Vancouver, or west of highway 9.
  • Restriction 21 – Corrective lenses required
  • Restriction 39 – Qualified supervisor required age 25+, 1 passenger
  • Restriction 43 – 5 am to midnight only L
  • Restriction 45 – 1 passenger unless supervisor aged 25+, family exempt
  • Restriction 46 – 0 BAC/BDC (blood alcohol/drug content), must display L sign, no electronic device
  • Restriction 47 – 0 BAC/BDC (blood alcohol/drug content), must display N sign, no electronic device

33. Conclusion

These new driver restrictions can seem downright annoying. But of course they are there to try and keep people safe. New drivers are simply at increased risk of crashing and causing injuries. This is due to many factors; two of the most important being driver inexperience, and driver distraction, and sometimes you can throw raging hormones and some other stuff into the mix there, too.

Apparently, The brain does not fully develop until the age of 25.Opens in a new tab. That’s not what you want me to tell you. The part of the brain that doesn’t develop until age 25 is called the prefrontal cortex. Impulsive behaviors may be much more tempting up until the age of 25. This is why it’s not a coincidence that many car rental companies charge a “youthful surcharge” or have an additional fee for those under 25. They aren’t simply hating on your age; those under 25 statistically crash automobiles more, take more risks, and get into accidents in general.

No one says you have to learn how to drive at any certain age (I mean, maybe they do..), but just learn when you feel ready.

My recommendation would be to follow the rules and avoid getting any tickets. Get through the graduated licensing program as efficiency as you can. Even though it may not seem like it, there is a full privilege drivers license waiting at the end of it all. And I think the marvelous newfound freedom that comes with that will all be worth it.

If you have problems saying ‘no’ to your friends, it may be helpful to drive a car that only has 2 seats such as the following… not that this is necessarily an affordable or desirable option, but still maybe something to think about. I can’t tell you what kind of 2-seater car I had when I was a teenager; then you may be able to deduce my age.

  • Honda CR-ZOpens in a new tab.
  • Mazda MX-5 Miata
  • Nissan 370Z
  • Smart Fortwo
  • BMW Z4
  • TT Roadster

Questions or comments? Let me know in the comments section below, I invite and respond to all comments.

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Carmen

Carmen became a driving instructor at the age of 22 in North Vancouver, Canada and is an experienced writer, blogger, photographer, artist, philosopher, certified day dreamer and generally complicated human.

719 thoughts on “ICBC L & N Driver Restrictions Summary & Bottomless FAQ [2022]

  1. i understand you are only allowed only 6 points when you are a “new driver”. does this apply to a certain time period or for as long as you have your “N”, even if you have it for 5 years? also are you able to pay the points off to make them not accumulate past 6? thanks for your time!

    1. Hey, if you get more than 6 points you’re pretty much guaranteed to get a driving prohibition of at least between 2 and 8 months.

      Yep technically you are considered a “new” driver if you still have your Class 7, even if you’ve had that for many years (Go and do your Class 5 road test ASAP would be my suggestion, then if you get a ticket/points you are treated not so strictly). The superintendent can use their discretion and see that you’ve had a somewhat long history of driving safely and may take that into account when deciding your fate, but still it’s better just to get rid of the N as soon as you can to avoid these issues.

      “You can’t pay off the driver penalty points to remove them from your driving record. They stay on your record for five years. If you have more than 3 points, you’ll be charged a premium and will get a bill in the mail four weeks before your birthday.”

      “Depending on your situation, it may be possible to reduce your penalty point debt. If you give up your driver’s licence for one year, your Driver Penalty Point premium could be eliminated. You can surrender your licence at any driver licensing office.”

      http://www.icbc.com/FAQ/Pages/Tickets-and-penalties.aspx

      http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/Pages/Driver-Penalty-Points.aspx

      http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/shareddocs/driver-improvement-policies-guidelines.pdf

      1. thankyou so a driving prohibition will happen regardless if you pay the points off? also how often are you able to pay for points? thanks for your time

        1. Yeah I think they are two separate things. The “driver improvement program” which is the office of the superintendent now called “road safety BC” I think, manages the driver prohibitions, and they can see your driving record with all the points and tickets I believe. But the penalty points are kept track of and will send you a separate bill in the mail. The prohibition may or may not happen, sometimes you will get a warning letter, or you will get a prohibition letter in the mail (then you have to stop driving)..

          “The Superintendent of Motor Vehicles can issue a driving prohibition if a review shows you have a poor driving record – this process of reviewing your driving record is part of the Driver Improvement Program. If this is the case for you, you will have received a ‘Notice of Intent to Prohibit’. If you wish to have the decision to prohibit you from driving reviewed, you have 21 days from the date of the ‘Notice of Intent to Prohibit’ – after which you will receive the final ‘Notice Of Prohibition’ that orders you to stop driving immediately and sets out the length of the prohibition.”

          http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/disputes/index.htm

          I think you’re supposed to pay for the points within 30 days of getting the bill:

          http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/Pages/Driver-Penalty-Points.aspx

  2. I have my N, no prior tickets or anything. Got pulled over for excessive speeding (60 over), got impound for 7 days. Will I get my license suspended?

    1. You might get driver improvement program prohibition, if you only got that 1 ticket which is worth 3 points then normally the guideline would be a possible 1-6 month prohibition, but it’s based on the discretion of the superintendent. You can get all the details here on page 13:

      http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/shareddocs/driver-improvement-policies-guidelines.pdf

      (Suspensions are only for criminal code infractions.. http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/Pages/Licence-suspensions.aspx

      http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/improvement/driver-improvement.htm

  3. My daughter was in an at fault accident last year. No ICBC claim. Last night she received a ticket for speeding and not displaying her N. Officer said that she was ‘very close’ to losing her licence. How will we know if she will actually lose it?

    1. Hi, She may get a letter in the mail, and that may be a warning letter or a notice of an upcoming prohibition; but usually she will have a chance to explain why the license should not be prohibited. Whenever a new driver has 3 or more points on their license, the license will be reviewed by the superintendent of motor vehicles, and they will use their discretion to decide what to do. The speeding ticket is probably worth 3 points and the fail to display N is worth zero. Does she have anymore points, or just those 3?

      Read page 13 here :

      http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/shareddocs/driver-improvement-policies-guidelines.pdf

      1. Also the officer was a little bit kind, as the fail to display N is worth 0 points, but she could have received the “drive contrary to restriction” (display the N is a restriction) and that is also worth 3.

  4. Hi I’m from Victoria . I just want to ask something cause I made a terrible mistake few months ago .. I am just Learners permit holder , and I drive without supervisor and carried 2 passengers with me .. So I got 300$ ticket and 6 demerit points .. My question is , when I paid my ticket , an icbc employee told me that I am goin to receive a mail from superintendent to tell me if I am going to suspended and how long it will be … But It has been 2 months and I don’t get any mails or letter from them , so I still have my license , and my earliest road test is on 19days from now.. So I don’t know if I am gonna book an appointment or no.. Do you think I am suspended ? And how long it will be?

    1. Hi, I think you can still do the road test if the prohibition has not actually gone through the system yet (sometimes they are slow with the paperwork) I think if you get your N, you may still get the prohibition/letter in the mail and that will be applied to your N license. And that would normally be between 1-6 months..

      http://drivesmartbc.ca/young-drivers/graduated-licensing-program/will-getting-ticket-delay-my-road-test

      See page 13 on the “driver improvement program”

      http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/shareddocs/driver-improvement-policies-guidelines.pdf

      Read also: http://drivesmartbc.ca/young-drivers/graduated-licensing-program/does-any-ticket-prohibit-you-class-5-exam

      1. Thank you for quick reply … :) some of my friends told me if I got caught .. I will be suspended within 2 years or more.. Is it true ?

        1. Hey, got caught for doing what? You got a fine and points, But you still have your driver’s license right? The officer did not take it away? So that means you are still allowed to drive with that license and on those conditions until you’ve actually been prohibited. And I might be wrong about being able to do the road test, but if you go for the road test and they tell you you aren’t allowed because of this issue, then you’ll just keep the L until you get the prohibition. Sorry I really have no experience with this so I’m not sure. Just don’t make it worse by getting anymore tickets/points!! The superintendent can use their discretion to decide what they think is the best action. But normally if those are the only points on your license it would be between 1 and 6 months according to that document.

          1. Uhmm I asked the officer that time , for what reason he pulled me over … And he said , it was just a random check , cause it was Friday night .. So guess who got lucky … :3 .. By the way thank u so much :)

  5. I’m a N driver but have held a new drivers license for the past 4 years I just never bothered getting my full license..I just recieved a speeding ticket and a ticket failure to display my N…will my license get suspended?

    1. Hi, Um.. I don’t know for sure but technically since you’re still a Class 7 driver the license will be reviewed by the superintendent, who may send you a letter and it could mean a warning or a prohibition. I guess you only got 3 points on the license for speeding, since the ticket for not displaying the N has 0 penalty points associated. But still.. It is best to take the class 5 Road test and get rid of the N as soon as you can. If you had been a Class 5 driver it would just be 1 speeding ticket worth 3 points and no review by the superintendent and no possible “driver improvement program” action. I am guessing they will take into account your 4 year history (are these your first 2 tickets you’ve ever had with your N?) and may let you off the hook. But I am not sure. Sorry I do not really know.

      http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/Pages/fines-points-offences.aspx

      See page 13:
      http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/shareddocs/driver-improvement-policies-guidelines.pdf

  6. Hey there. I have my N. I just got a 24 hour prohibition and I was wondering if I would lose my license for any extent of time other then the 24 hours if I just went in and paid the ticket rather then disputing it. Because I got a 90 day prohibition just over 6 months ago for blowing a fail. Thanks for any input

    1. Hey, Read this on page 13 and 14: http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/shareddocs/driver-improvement-policies-guidelines.pdf

      It looks like you will be prohibited between 3 and 6 months once Road Safety BC gets involved..

  7. Hi there. I have my N. I just got a 24 prohibition, I was wondering if I would end up losing my license for any amount of time if I just went in and paid the ticket rather then disputing it and having to deal with going to court, because I got a 3 month prohition just over 6 months ago for blowing a fail. Thanks for any input

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