How To Turn Right At Green Lights [Canada] – Epic Tutorial

How To Turn Right at Green Lights – Beautiful British Columbia, Canada


Knowing how to turn right at green lights safely is another one of those important skills that learners, new drivers, and all drivers must practice to get really good at.

And while turning right at green lights doesn’t seem as dangerous as turning left at an intersection, it’s somehow more difficult and complicated to teach to a new driver (and to learn).

That is why I would always teach left turns at traffic lights first. Also, learners would know how to turn left and could avoid terrifying their parents too much when they went to practice driving.

In this article, I’m going to break this all down and discuss some of the most common sources of confusion for new drivers and all drivers when turning right at green lights – busy intersections. Based in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Feel free to also check out other related articles on this site: How to Turn Left at a Traffic Light Safely and Guide to Turning Right on a Red Light.

Preparing for your ICBC road test? Be sure to check out my epic article: ICBC Road Test Tips For Classes 5 & 7 [Instructor Gets Deep].

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Turning right at a green light

BC Motor Vehicle Act – Turning At Intersections, Green Lights

Turning at intersections

165   (1)If the driver of a vehicle intends to turn it to the right at an intersection, the driver must cause it to approach the intersection and then make the turn as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway.

Green light

127   (1)When a green light alone is exhibited at an intersection by a traffic control signal,

(a) the driver of a vehicle facing the green light

i). may cause the vehicle to proceed straight through the intersection, or to turn left or right, subject to a sign or signal prohibiting a left or right turn, or both, or designating the turning movement permitted,

(ii) must yield the right of way to pedestrians lawfully in the intersection or in an adjacent crosswalk at the time the green light is exhibited, and

(iii). must yield the right of way to vehicles lawfully in the intersection at the time the green light became exhibited, and

(b). a pedestrian facing the green light may proceed across the roadway in a marked or unmarked crosswalk, subject to special pedestrian traffic control signals directing him or her otherwise, and has the right of way for that purpose over all vehicles.

Beautiful British Columbia Motor Vehicle Act

Who Has The Right Of Way When Turning Right at Green Lights?

Wondering who has the right-of-way when turning right at green lights? Nobody really “has the right-of-way.” The driving school would have absolutely positively fired me if I ever started teaching people that they simply ever “had the right of way.”

What is right of way while driving?
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Let’s get technical. Right of way is equal to “that space at that time.”

Rather than thinking someone “has the right of way,” certain road users should yield to others. It doesn’t mean they’re actually going to. Driving is dangerous, and we utilize this kind of attitude to greatly reduce risk.

Pedestrians and cyclists may proceed first. Right turns must yield to people in the crosswalk. Left turns must yield to people in the crosswalk as well as any opposing or conflicting traffic.

But in theory, and generally speaking here:

Who has the right of way when turning left or right on a solid green light?

Pedestrians may proceed across the crosswalk when they have the “walk” signal. Right-turning vehicles must yield to pedestrians and cyclists. Left-turning vehicles must yield to pedestrians, cyclists, and any other conflicting or oncoming traffic, including right-turning vehicles when there is a solid green light at an intersection.

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Who has the right of way when turning left on a solid green light?

Yield to whoever was there first

One good thing to realize about driving right-of-way is that no matter what kind of traffic control device there is – or isn’t – at any particular location, and no matter what is “supposed to happen,” drivers must legally yield to any other road user that has entered any space before they did. If it got there before you, yield.

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You must yield to any road user that was in any space before you.

How To Turn Right – Do You Have To Stop At a Green Light When Turning Right?

No, don’t stop at a green light when you’re turning right unless there’s a good reason: you’re yielding to pedestrians and/or cyclists, or if you’re stopping for a particular reason such as another vehicle already in the space. If there are left-turning vehicles in the intersection, they are supposed to be yielding to you.

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Don’t stop at a green light when turning right unless there’s a good reason, such as a pedestrian, cyclist, or another vehicle conflicting with your available space.

If there are no pedestrians and/or cyclists to yield to, then slow to around 20 km/hr, shoulder check, and simply turn. Keep an eye on the left-turning driver in case they are planning to take your right-of-way; your particular space at that particular moment.

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Can You Turn Right On a Green Light Without An Arrow?

Yes, you can turn right on a green light without an arrow. If you’re facing a green light, the green light means go, just yield to pedestrians and/or cyclists. Arrows are an optional traffic control device, used for some intersections.

How to Turn Right at a Green Light – Know Who You Are Yielding To

Do you have to yield when turning right on the green?

In theory, when you are turning right on a green light, the only other road users you normally need to yield to are pedestrians and cyclists.

Yielding to the left-turning vehicle (sometimes)

Of course, you may need to yield to someone or something else – such as a left-turning vehicle, if it has already turned and is subsequently in your way.

Drivers who are turning left are supposed to yield to drivers who are turning right in this situation. But of course, in the real world, things may be different, and it’s good to get ready for this and accept it as a simple fact.

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Sometimes the left-turning driver does not anticipate a pedestrian and then stops in the middle of the intersection like this. If their vehicle gets there before you, you must then legally yield.

That’s why it’s the only safe way to think, “that car is supposed to yield

… Rather than, “I have the right of way.” Not trying to be dramatic, but the difference between these two ideas is quite realistically the difference between a crash and not a crash.

If the other car doesn’t yield

If they don’t yield, then you don’t have the right of way. It’s very simple. If no one gave me birthday-cake-flavored Timbits for my birthday, then I don’t have them. Oh, maybe that’s a little different.

How to Turn Right – Pay Attention To Your Vehicle Positioning

Shoulder check and get your vehicle closer to the curb

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Shoulder check before moving your vehicle position closer to the curb to check for cyclists or any other road user that may be in your blind spot

Whenever possible, try to move your vehicle closer to the curb before the right turn so that vehicles behind you can possibly fit by in case you do stop for pedestrians or cyclists.

Mirror checks and shoulder checks before right turns

Before you move over, use a right-mirror check and a right-shoulder check to ensure there are no bikes or anything else that you would be potentially in conflict with, in your blind spot. Check out my article about blind spots to learn more.

If there are no pedestrians and any left-turning vehicle is clearly yielding, then simply turn.

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Shoulder check before you move your vehicle position, and if you stop for someone in the crosswalk and time goes by, check again as the very last thing you do before you turn in case of more potential pedestrians running to make the light.

How To Turn Right At Green Lights – Watch For Pedestrians

If you do see pedestrians crossing

If you see pedestrians, move forward into the intersection a bit in order to line up your vehicle with where you are about to turn.

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Pull forward a little into the intersection while waiting for pedestrians to cross the road. That way, if the light goes yellow (and/or red by the time it’s safe to turn), you’re legally permitted to then leave the intersection and continue on your journey.

Don’t stop behind the white stopping line while waiting for pedestrians

In other words, do not wait behind the stopping line as you would if your light were red. You do want to pull forward as long as there’s no other right-turning vehicle in front of you.

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There are two reasons for this:

1) It clearly tells the driver of any left-turning car that you are seriously getting ready to turn right and take your turn, and you are merely waiting for the pedestrians.

If you wait behind the white stopping line, the driver may think that you want him/her to go first, because it looks like you’re leaving an insanely large amount of space in front of you for no reason

Keep in mind, there should be no pedestrians walking on the perpendicular crosswalk; so it’s fine to block it; in fact, you kind of have no choice in most cases.

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Don’t wait behind your white stopping line unless there’s another vehicle in front of you also turning right or in your way.

Second Reason

The other reason has to do with the traffic light

If you move forward into the intersection, wait for slow or many pedestrians, and then the light goes yellow, then you’re still allowed – and you should – exit the intersection after the pedestrians, but – in theory – before any left-turning vehicle.

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Again, this is in theory, where there are also perfect roses and rainbows with a pot of gold waiting under them for anyone to freely take.

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If the left-turn vehicle doesn’t yield

Sometimes, the left-turning vehicle may try to go first and you do need to keep an eye on that. If they don’t yield to you, simply let them go first and then turn after them.

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Life doesn’t always go as we plan. But it can go two seconds after that, which is no big deal really. My philosophy is I don’t really care who is right and wrong – or who is perfect because nobody is – I care that I get to where I’m going safely, that’s it.

How to Turn Right – More Details On Pedestrians

How much time/space to give pedestrians?

Give the pedestrians some extra time and space before you turn.

You don’t have to necessarily wait until they’ve walked completely across the entire crosswalk. In certain intersections, that might mean waiting for them to walk past multiple lanes, which may seem unnecessary.

As a rough guideline, you should wait until they’re at least past the yellow line if they’re walking away from you, or until they actually step onto the sidewalk if they’re walking toward you.

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Do another quick shoulder check before you turn to make sure there are no more pedestrians about to walk; sometimes there are more, running to try to make it across in time because they’re in a hurry.

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When you’re learning how to turn right at an intersection, it’s good to be aware of some things that pedestrians have been known to do:

  • Drop something such as keys or phone in the middle of the crosswalk and have to stop to pick it up
  • Change their mind in the middle of the crosswalk and start walking in the opposite direction
  • See their friend in the middle of the crosswalk and stop and chat for a few seconds before continuing to cross the road
  • Trip and fall, and before getting up, notice their shoelace is untied and decide to quickly tie it up before continuing
  • Bolt out of a building or a bus and start sprinting across the crosswalk as fast as they can, like a cheetah, out of nowhere
  • Pedestrians with children may be extra slow and unpredictable
  • On windy days, umbrellas that aren’t hardcore may turn inside out and this can be distracting to the pedestrian holding it
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If there’s a median/boulevard

If there’s a median/boulevard in the middle of the road, you can turn when the pedestrian has passed that point.

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That Oncoming Left-Turning Vehicle when Turning Right on a Green Light

Do keep an eye on the left-turning vehicle.

The driver doing a left turn is supposed to be yielding to you. However, this doesn’t mean that they will.

If it turns when it shouldn’t, then simply let it go. Let it go first, like, literally, but also if you’re the type who holds a grudge; it’s just not good for you! Let it go first and go after it. Simple.

We are staying alive here, and getting to our destination in one piece, not proving a point about right and wrong. Humans are imperfect and that’s a fact. Maybe that person is having a bad day, which can happen to any of us. We never know what is going on in their life so it is best not to judge and just continue when it’s safe.

Dealing With Multiple Lanes when Turning Right on a Green Light

If there are two lanes, then avoid turning at the exact same time as the left-turning vehicle.

If there are two lanes, then avoid turning at the exact same time as the left-turning vehicle.
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Turn before or after the left-turning vehicle, but not simultaneously.

You need some extra space around your vehicle at all times and turning at the same time robs you of this safety cushion. It is part of being a safe, defensive driver. Read my full article on how to be a defensive driver and manage the space around your vehicle.

Try to time it so you turn before it or after it, but not at the same time. If you avoid turning at the same time, it’s a lot more difficult to have a collision with that vehicle.

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Which Lane Should You Turn Into?

Turn into the ‘proper’ lane when learning how to turn right at a traffic light

Legally when you turn right, you’re required to turn into the right lane; and the driver of any left-turning vehicle is required to turn into the left lane.

How to Turn Right When There’s an HOV Lane

Sometimes there’s an HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lane on the road you’re about to turn right onto. In that case, check for warning signs before the intersection. Turn into the lane you will be driving in.

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Lane changes after turning right

However, if after you turn there are no vehicles in the other lane, you can quickly change your turn signal to a left signal and make sure it is safe and do a lane change into the left lane fairly quickly.

This is perfectly legal as long as:

  1. You are not crossing a solid white line and
  2. It is safe (duh)
  3. Your left-turn signal is flashing
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How to Turn Right at a Green Light – When The Light Turns Yellow

If you’re approaching the intersection for the right turn and the traffic light goes yellow, you are legally required to stop your automobile behind the white line and yield to others, unless it is not safe to stop (point of no return) – just like any other yellow traffic light.

Check out my full article on yellow traffic lights to learn more about that.

Legally speaking, traffic lights control traffic that is approaching intersections; not traffic that has already entered intersections.

Once you are in the middle of the intersection, the traffic light really doesn’t matter and has no legal consequence – you then need to leave when it’s safe and only when it’s safe, that’s it.

How to Turn Right At Green Lights When There’s a Bus

Question: If you are wanting to turn right and notice that there is a bus stop in the very right lane and a bus is currently stopped there, are you allowed to turn into the next lane? This was a two-lane street and the bus was just about a car-length away from the intersection.

Also, what if the very right lane becomes available for meter parking after rush hour? Are you able to turn into the next lane if there is a car parked in the spot closest to the curb? What if there wasn’t a car parked there but further up?

Yes, in the case of buses, you may turn into the next lane. All of the same rules apply. Just keep an eye on the bus in case it turns on its signal, in which case you would need to yield as per usual.

The law says that left turns must yield to right turns when the light is green. It never says that the left lane somehow “belongs” to the left-turning driver. Check out my full left-turning tutorial here.

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Left-turning drivers still must yield to right-turning drivers in this scenario.

The same applies if there are parked vehicles. You can turn into the first available lane; turn into the lane you are actually going to be driving in. If the parked car is farther up, you should turn into the right lane and then do a lane change.

As a rough guideline, use 1/2 – 3/4 of a block. If it feels like it would be stupid to turn into a small space and then do an impossible lane change, then just turn into the lane you will be driving in. Do what makes sense.

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Turn into the lane you will be driving in.

How to Turn Right at a Green Light With a Yield Sign

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If you’re turning right at a yield sign at an intersection that also has a green light, remember that the traffic control device you need to follow is the yield sign. Check out my full article about yield signs to learn more about them.

Green light offers clues

The green light just happens to be there. It can give you clues.

Use the green light to tell you where the relevant traffic might be coming from, and which particular drivers and/or road users you may need to yield to. Turn on your right signal, as this is still just a right turn.

If The Light Is Green, You May Need To Yield To A Left-Turning Vehicle

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You can’t assume that the left-turning car will stay in “its own lane.” Wait to be safe. You are the one facing the yield sign so technically, you must yield anytime there may be a potential conflict.

Turning Left After Turning Right At The Yield Sign?

If you’re needing to turn left soon after turning right, then simply yield to both (or all) lanes of traffic. Then, switch your signal to a left signal and continue into the left lane. Remember shoulder checks for lane changes.

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Spotted: Baby On Board (Literally)

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Baby on Board. LOL.

Omg, I know how to use the word “Literally.” I know, it’s random, isn’t it? It’s funny the things you see when you drive around a lot.

When Can I Go Into a Bus Lane Before a Right Turn?

Pay careful attention to signs and pavement markings. Since it’s illegal to change lanes over a solid white line, make sure the line is dotted before you move. Check out my full article on road lines and pavement markings.

I’m not sure there’s a cut-and-dry answer for this. Do it sometime when it is safe, not crossing solid white lines, and not too far in advance that you are blatantly driving in the bus lane for miles and miles and receive a ticket for that.

Usually, I would aim for about 3/4 – 1/2 of a block. If you wait too long and get too close to the intersection, other vehicles may be in the space, so consider the vehicle behind you and remember to signal early.

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After the last lane-way, might be a good rough guideline:

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Perhaps, “After the last parked car,” can be a guideline.

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If anyone has a better answer, let me know.

Conclusion – How To Turn Right At Green Lights

Knowing how to turn right at green lights is another necessary skill for all drivers to have. It’s generally a much safer option when compared to turning left at a traffic light.

This is because right turns merely turn across a pedestrian and cyclist path, whereas left turns turn across those, as well as oncoming traffic.

And the thing about the oncoming traffic is:

  • It’s dangerous
  • It’s unpredictable
  • Drivers are often speeding, and this can be hard to judge
  • You can’t trust the turn signals; you aren’t sure where the cars are actually going to go
  • In the dark, you can’t see the drivers through the windows; during the daytime, you can kind of see if they are paying attention and where they are looking or if they are on their phones or distracted

Sometimes left turns can not be avoided, but sometimes they can by turning right three times and driving in a circle (I mean, “square,” technically speaking).

Practicing your right turns at many different intersections gives you the best possible experience. Always remember to do one and possibly two shoulder checks for these and other right turns, depending on if you’re changing the positioning of your vehicle (to check for cyclists) and/or stopping (time goes by) before your right turn.

This is, of course, to check your blind spot, and mini blind spot mirrors (Amazon affiliate link) can help to reduce surprises.


Carmen Cohoe

Carmen became a driving instructor in beautiful North Vancouver at the age of 22 due to some crazy people who agreed to hire her. After that, there was never a dull moment teaching many different folks from many different places how to drive using automatic and standard vehicles and a minivan.

38 thoughts on “How To Turn Right At Green Lights [Canada] – Epic Tutorial

  • Cursois

    perhaps this blog is no longer active, but I’ve got a burning question about a right turn on a green light.

    If you are leaving a parking lot complex (shopping center, church, etc.) and there is a green light for both the turning lane and the person making the right who has the right a way? I was told because it’s a private drive the person making the left has the right a way. It just seems strange to me that the person making the right also has a green light.


  • Bella

    Hey Carmen, when conditions allow me to turn right at an intersection but there’s a car coming across on the left lane, can I turn then, since I’ll be turning onto the right lane? Let’s assume the right lane I’m to turn into is not obstructed with parked vehicles.

  • Ben

    Hello, I just wanted to ask when to turn right or left if there’s a pedestrian and there’s a traffic median?Some say if pedestrian is crossing away from you, you can turn right when he/she passes the median or if pedestrian is crossing towards you, you can turn left he/she passes the median. I live in Toronto by the way. Please help and thank you.

  • Randy Buss

    Hi, I just watched and re-watched the demo video about making right turns. I failed my road test because I was stopping exactly as the vehicle depicted in the video. Got numerous “bad” marks for stop position under space margins. I was apparently too close to the crosswalk. The vehicle in the video seems to be also stopping with the front wheels just behind the line and about half the width of the crosswalk being obscured by the hood of the car. I can’t figure out why I failed by doing the same stops as the vehicle in this video. Am I missing something? BTW, thanks for all of your posts and driving tips and do’s and don’ts etc. Thank you!

    • Hey. Sorry to hear it. The front bumper should be behind the white line, no part of the vehicle should be in front of the white line whatsoever. This is so as not to encroach onto the space of pedestrians at all. The video isn’t that good because the camera used has a sort of wide angle or fish-eye effect in order to capture the most, so it is a bit deceiving. Hope that helps.

      • Randy Buss

        Yes,that does help. Thank you! I have a new car which as was said, all I can see is the road, wipers and the rear of the hood. As far as experience goes, I have driven for over 40 years, 32 of them driving commercial transport. All accident free and blah blah blah. I went to renew my DL and after letting it slide for just over 3 years and discovered I had to take a road test. ( I no longer need my class 1 or 6, so am only doing the class 5 thing ), I thought what? I haven’t had a road test since 1972 for a class 5 and 6 and 1980 for class 1. So me being me, I figured no sweat. Yeah well I guess I was rather over confident and forgot to mention I also committed a bit of a rolling stop or two, and relied on mirrors only instead of actual shoulder checks. Oops! No wonder I actually flunked.I have been reading a lot of BCDrivingBlogs and learned a lot of valuable 21’st century driving info. After I looked up how to decipher the road test report, I figured I had better keep reading up on the BCDrivingBlogs before I go and throw away another $50.00. ;) Thanks again for the responses and advice!


        • haha Aww you’re not the only one. It’s so easy to get habits and especially after driving truck, yeah truck drivers don’t do shoulder checks! I must admit I would probably fail the road test too some days I drive I have some habits myself. The road test is a lot different now and yes the examiners are quite picky about all of these little details. Make sure for right turns you do 2 shoulder checks at times: do 1 if you’re changing the positioning of the car to move it closer to the curb from being beside the yellow line on a wide road/lane, and then do another one as the very last thing you do before turning)… They’re also picky about your hands on the wheel, there must always be 2 hands on there and you aren’t allowed to turn corners or do anything other than go backwards in a straight line with less than 2 hands on the wheel. Let me know if you have anymore questions :)

    • The other problem is for most cars when you are driving you can not see your front bumper. All you see is the road, or your wipers, or maybe part of your hood. So it’s a judgement/experience / training thing.

  • Kiwiz

    Hi Carmen, Thanks again for posting in your wonderful blog and replying to comments. I’m still a student driver and it’s frustrating for me that I can’t even turn the car properly when some teens are able to do so. I suck heavily turning both left and right. I have had 2 instructors so far the first one told me to keep to the right of the curb when turning right, however when I do this all the time I make wide turns to compensate not hitting the curb. Needless to say I ended up failing my road test because of my horrid turns also I am still slow o n turning (I thought they’d be more lenient about slow turns but I guess the proctor I had wasn’t letting me off). Now I got a new instructor and he says the main reason why I’m turning too wide and taking up space from the other lane is because I am driving too close to the curb. He says I should keep straight first (1m distance) and when I reach the corner of where I want to turn, then I should slightly turn the wheel to the right. I tried to do this but still ended up making a wide turn. Maybe it’s just me but for the life of me can’t turn properly! Do you have any advice to not make wide turns? Thanks

    • Hi first of all turning is SO hard to learn and to teach. It’s something experienced drivers ‘just do’ so it’s hard to explain it. I’m working on an answer that can make sense for you though.

      • Kiwiz

        Thank you so much for your kind words and for replying to me. I felt like it was just me who can’t turn even after how many hours of practice. people get frustrated at me for being a slow learner. I really want to be a safe driver and turn properly but it’s so hard for me without knowing the technicalities and knowing little tips here and there, I just am not one of those people who can “feel” how much to turn the wheel and when. I look forward to hearing from you again. Thx

          • Kiwiz

            I feel more comfortable shuffling as well but my current instructor flicks my hand when I do this since he wants hand over hand method. yah I’ve noticed I’m turning the wheel too much when I do hand over hand but with shuffling I underdo it. I have no idea why I’m on both extreme polars I feel like my brain is opposite.

          • Kiwiz

            Thank you for the vid. I feel like this will help a lot. I think I’m doing over steering and under steering. And the awkward steering at 4:11 is how I steer sometimes so I need to fix that.

          • Kiwiz

            Sorry I forgot to add this part: When the guy turns the wheel to the right, is he turning 3/4 of 1 turn of the wheel? Does this differ, I heard a “perfect turn” is 1 1/2 turns but honestly I don’t even get to count cause i”m so frazzled on just trying to turn the wheel so I don’t hit things.

            • Are you talking about just turning a normal right turn? Usually you turn the wheel 3/4 of a circle for this type of thing. If you turn 1 1/2 (or there abouts) that is WAY too much steering for a right turn… This will be so much extra work, and then you will have to do all that extra work to “un-do” the steering… very tedious.

        • Also have you read this one?

          I can’t beleive I wrote this whole article and I only talked about left turns, nothing at all about right turns, It’s like I forgot that cars can also turn right, lol.

          I’m going to make a new video tutorial for this subject but it will take me about a week.

          The other thing that helps so much is to look where you want to go. The car goes where the driver is looking.

          • Kiwiz

            Thank you for your help again. I haven’t read that article until you reposted the link. Its very informative. I tend to cut the corner when turning left too. Like today I went over the yellow divider just a little bit because I think I over steered but mostly it’s because I kept staring at the yellow line reminding myself not to go over it that I ended up there, you are right it’s best to look where you want to go far ahead but I think it’s human nature well my nature at least to look at the objects/obstacle that worries me to keep a watch out and tell myself don’t cross here, don’t hit the curb, watch this etc that I end up actually stumbling on them. I’m not sure how else to fix this but with practice I guess. Thanks, I will keep a look out on your new video tutorial.

            • Yeah whenever the driver looks at things they don’t want to hit, they end up driving in a zig-zag pattern which kind of looks like they are bouncing from one obstacle to the next, rather than deciding where they actually want to go and going there. That is a lot like life in general! Some people go through all these jobs that they hate and bounce from one to the next. But really you could decide on where you want to be and then figure out how to go there and then go there!! haha I am getting all philosophical tonight. Sorry! ;)

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